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{% if include.width %}{% assign width = include.width %}{% else %}{% assign width = "100%" %}{% endif %}
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{% if include.height %}{% assign height = include.height %}{% else %}{% assign height = "200" %}{% endif %}
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<div class="video-wrapper podcast-embed">
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<iframe title="Podcast player" width="{{ width }}" height="{{ height }}" src="{{ include.url }}" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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<p class="podcast-fallback"><a href="{{ include.url }}">Listen on Knapsack</a></p>
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title: Knapsack Podcast: Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum
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date: 2025-05-27 00:00:00 Z
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- talks
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eventdate: May 27, 2025
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location: Remote
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eventurl: https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe
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headerimg: "/img/design-systems-podcast.webp"
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# The Design Systems Podcast
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I joined the Knapsack team for a podcast conversation on design tokens, governance, and what it's taken to scale Spectrum design data at Adobe.
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We talked about treating design decisions as structured data, where governance actually belongs, and the kinds of constraints that only show up once a system reaches real organizational scale.
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The discussion draws directly from my work on Spectrum design tokens, release processes, and long-term stewardship of design data.
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{% include podcast.html url="https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe" %}
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[Listen to the full episode and read the transcript on Knapsack](https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe).

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