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+  <p class="podcast-fallback"><a href="{{ include.url }}">Listen on Knapsack</a></p>
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+---
+title: Knapsack Podcast
+date: 2025-05-27 00:00:00 Z
+categories:
+  - talks
+layout: header-image-post
+eventdate: May 27, 2025
+location: Remote
+eventurl: https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe
+headerimg: "/img/design-systems-podcast.webp"
+---
+
+# Knapsack Podcast: Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum
+
+I joined the Knapsack team for a podcast conversation on design tokens, governance, and what it's taken to scale Spectrum design data at Adobe.
+
+We talked about treating design decisions as structured data, where governance actually belongs, and the kinds of constraints that only show up once a system reaches real organizational scale.
+
+The discussion draws directly from my work on Spectrum design tokens, release processes, and long-term stewardship of design data.
+
+<div class="video-wrapper podcast-player">
+  <iframe src="https://www.buzzsprout.com/887923/episodes/17172395-dsp-133-garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe?client_source=small_player&amp;iframe=true&amp;referrer=https://www.buzzsprout.com/887923/episodes/17172395-133-garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-17172395&amp;player=small" loading="lazy" width="100%" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="Design Systems Podcast: Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe"></iframe>
+</div>
+
+[Listen to the full episode and read the transcript on Knapsack](https://www.knapsack.cloud/blog/garth-braithwaite-on-design-tokens-governance-and-scaling-spectrum-at-adobe).
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