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@bethdingley if you're able to help with tagging people to ask about the questions above, that would be great |
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These are AerChemMIP experiments, you'll need to chat with @fmoconnor and @duncanwp (not sure what Stephanie Fiedler's GitHub handle is, but she is also a co-chair if anyone can tag her) |
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I'm not entirely sure what the question is! AerChemMIP has the following piClim-* experiments: |
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There are also other piClim-X experiments for quantifying different biogeochemical feedbacks. These are: |
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And there's an additional one for time-evolving forcing over the historical period: piClim-histall. This isn't for AFT and matches an experiment in RFMIP. See Table 6 in https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2025/egusphere-2025-5669/ |
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@znichollscr If the above information isn't sufficient, please let us know! |
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piClim-CH4 can be either concentration-driven or emissions-driven, depending on the capability of the model and what was used in piClim-control |
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We also have transient atmos-only experiments in AerChemMIP but I haven't added these here, but could do if also required! |
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Thanks @fmoconnor I'm trying to figure out how this fits with what is in the Dunne et el paper Table 1, Table 3 and Figure 3: https://gmd.copernicus.org/articles/18/6671/2025/gmd-18-6671-2025.pdf (@eleanororourke @bethdingley you may also have insights on the questions below) For example, do the papers you've linked supersede Dunne et al? Is there just content missing from Dunne et al? Does Dunne et al 'override' the papers you've linked and actually only the experiments listed in Dunne et al are AFT experiments? Something else? Re piClim-histall, in Dunne et al Table 3 this is listed as requiring 251 years (I assume to go from 1850 to 2100). So is the |
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Ok so Dunne et al Table 3 says piClim-X where X = CH4, N2O, NOX, ODS, SO2 i.e. 5 experiments. Then it says simulation years are "43 x 6" which suggests 6 experiments. Do you know which is correct and, if there should be 6 experiments, what the sixth is? (It's not piClim-control or piClim-anthro or piClim-4xCO2, they're all covered in Table 1 of Dunne et al already) |
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The piClim-histall experiment is described as: For piClim-X we also have the piClim-aer which sits under RFMIP rather than AerChemMIP making up the six with CH4, N2O, NOX, ODS, SO2. |
Yes. My confusion is the name. Why is it called
Hmm but that has its own row where it says 30 simulation years. I guess the 30 years for piClim-aer are just double counted. |
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I will ask Robert to clarify! And yes I think the 30 simulation years is double counted - will add to list of corrections for when scenario names are updated in Dunne et al. |
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@znicholls Tim Andrews (one of RFMIP chairs) has confirmed it is legacy from CMIP6 and they want to keep the same (covering 1850-2100). |
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Closing in favour of znichollscr#5 |
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