openness to re-merging with the Node project (in the future)

[Fishrock123]

The open-ness to re-merge with the Node project was a fundamental force holding io.js together for the very beginning. Does Ayo aim to do the same?

IMO, it would be an ideal goal to have.

[Qard]

I'd be open to re-merging if and when the problems plaguing Node.js are resolved. Problematic people removed; use of "policy" as an excuse ended; power structures reorganized to emphasize community over tech. So far though it seems like there's little desire to fix these problems from those with the power to do so.

[Fishrock123]

So far though it seems like there's little desire to fix these problems from those with the power to do so.

This is very similar to Node pre-io.js fork.

I agree that the goal should be when the things the fork is being made over are resolved (even if by a merge), if they are.

[zkat]

I just want shit to be fixed. I don't care what the project is called or who controls it as long as it serves the communities it has worked so hard to push away.

[Fishrock123]

Maybe goal is the wrong wording - we were always open to re-merging if the stuff from pre-io.js node was fixed.

[varjmes]

Maybe goal is the wrong wording - we were always open to re-merging if the stuff from pre-io.js node was fixed.

I second Kat's sentiments and also like this sentence.

[styfle]

Is this related? nodejs/CTC#165 (comment)

[addaleax]

@styfle It’s the “statement” from a person who has generally been standing in the way of making Node.js an inclusive project, which is what this project is trying to achieve. That his behaviour was explicitly considered acceptable leadership behaviour by a majority of Node’s TSC was what sparked this fork. I don’t think there’s any more relation.

[tenthirtyone]

Can this just be the repo for people who want to bring their identity politics to projects? It's actually nice that we have a place to direct them and I think what you're doing here would be a good home for people who want to spend more time debating what the pronoun should be used instead of doing development

[csvan]

@tenthirtyone you're pretty much demonstrating why this fork exists. Congratulations.

[zkat]

@tenthirtyone you're the one bringing identity politics into it here. Everyone else is talking about trying to contribute to a project and realizing we can't even make the Working Groups we need for it. See also: documentation WG.

You are, in fact, the first person in the entire thread to make any remarks about identity politics, btw. Maybe think about that a bit, and the time you're trying to waste here while we try and get code done.

[jewsh]

emphasize community over tech

Wouldn't the number one goal be a functional product and therefore it should be tech over community?
Please be aware that I have Aspergers and can't read feelings/mood so if this offends anyone I'm sorry.

[vsemozhetbyt]

FWIW, but I am not happy with statements like:

If it comes to that, Ayo will work hard to find a good alternative governance structure itself, and ideally supplant the Node Core project...

I think both sides should try to abstain from any slightest hostility to make re-merging easier.