Ragdoll interaction problem

[Yeji15Hwang]

So, I tried the latest MetahookSV for Hellstrike and CSPB. The ragdolls works fine in both mods, but in CSPB the "interaction" isn't working, meanwhile it works in Hellstrike

https://youtu.be/971SLnFkMaM
https://youtu.be/gAQlEtVVhuM

[hzqst]

Sugguestion: try bv_debug_draw 1 and bv_debug_draw_wallhack 1 and see differences between Hellstrike and CSPB

[Yeji15Hwang]

and what to do about it?

CSPB :

HELLSTRIKE :

[hzqst]

Didn't you notice that you don't have wireframed-ragdoll on your lowerbody in the screenshot from CSPB while you have wireframed-ragdoll on your lowerbody in the screenshot from hellstrike? ofc there is no interaction because you just don't have a ragdoll attached to your localplayer model.

[Yeji15Hwang]

Well, but in some previous MetahookSV version, it was working fine....

[hzqst]

Well, but in some previous MetahookSV version, it was working fine....

So you gonna find why you don't have physic configs for your localplayer model.

[Yeji15Hwang]

If you mean the "terror_physics.txt", I've put this config to all models and rename it as the mdl name. I didn't change anything inside it tho, just renaming the filename, but somehow work for Hellstrike, but not for CSPB. It was like the problem of SSAO back then where in CSPB SSAO exist, meanwhile in Hellstrike SSAO doesn't..

[hzqst]

terror_physics.txt is only for terror.mdl, it's not for other models, even they look "normal" in previous version, they were actually buggy in certain cases, when using copy-pasted physic configs.

That is, copy-pasted physic config is ignored when being found with incompatiable model. CTRL+C CTRL+V won't make it compatiable.

You will have to make your own {model name}_physics.txt. or wait for other contributors to make the missing configs files, or use _hd version of official Counter-Strike models as an alternative.

[Yeji15Hwang]

Well if the problem is caused by the _physics.txt, then why does it work in Hellstrike? Cause I was doing the same method for it. Also, I think the latest version that works in CSPB is before r_showlowerbody implemented / before _physics.txt exist (some version before this issue happened #492)

https://youtu.be/hH0p09Bj9v0

[hzqst]

Well if the problem is caused by the _physics.txt, then why does it work in Hellstrike? Cause I was doing the same method for it. Also, I think the latest version that works in CSPB is before r_showlowerbody implemented / before _physics.txt exist (some version before this issue happened #492)

https://youtu.be/hH0p09Bj9v0

It can be working if you copy-paste the legacy _ragdoll.txt files like what you did in hellstrike, but it's strongly discouraged. because:

1. _ragdoll.txt support might be removed in the future.

2. copy-pasted _ragdoll.txt can be buggy when being used with incompatiable models.

As always, the best approach to play with BulletPhysics is to create _phyics.txtfrom scratch with built-in physic editor ('sv_cheats 1;bv_open_debug_ui').

[di57inct]

physics.txt files will replace ragdoll.txt files?

[Yeji15Hwang]

So there might be change on how ragdoll configs working then? Will it changed by the _physics.txt? Because for number 2, I know a little bit on how to make it compatible with different models (I know a bit of changing the LArm, Rarm, etc, ofc only from the config files). But for the _physics.txt, it's too much lines that I don't even understand on how to change them, because I got no deep knowledge about these things...

[hzqst]

physics.txt files will replace ragdoll.txt files?

physics.txt has higher loading priority than ragdoll.txt, and the Save button in physic editor only generates physics.txt.

[hzqst]

So there might be change on how ragdoll configs working then? Will it changed by the _physics.txt? Because for number 2, I know a little bit on how to make it compatible with different models (I know a bit of changing the LArm, Rarm, etc, ofc only from the config files). But for the _physics.txt, it's too much lines that I don't even understand on how to change them, because I got no deep knowledge about these things...

sv_cheats 1;bv_open_debug_ui is what you need

btw,

	"VerifyBoneChunk"		"1"

https://github.com/hzqst/MetaHookSv/blob/363b4d4b06a71af7a8d25c6b7a66e6c52b9214ef/Build/cstrike/models/player/terror/terror_physics.txt#L3C2-L3C24

this is the option that blocks you from using terror_physics.txt for other model folders. set it to "0" removes the restriction.

[Yeji15Hwang]

I tried the bv_open_debug_ui, but I literally don't know anything to do TT. Also I tried changing the VerifyBoneChunk to 0, still doesn't work

and anyway, even in Hellstrike I don't put the terror_pyhsics.txt, the interaction still works... This is kinda weird

[Yeji15Hwang]

Anyway, I think the ragdoll interaction is working, but it "read wrong", I mean look at this, seems like collision exist, but it moves me instead of moving the dead player body
*note, for the bots the collision works well with the dead body, it's just me who can't interact with the dead body ragdoll, but my screen is shaking instead

https://youtu.be/GF3j_FmxMJ4