Run `make serve` and `make initdb` simultaneously?

[lgh2]

At the NYC Python/PyLadies mini-sprint, one of the attendees was following the instructions in the documentation to set up his development environment. He was confused about whether make serve and make initdb should be run sequentially or simultaneously.

I have always been running the commands simultaneously (I run make serve, and while that is printing things to stdout I run make initdb in another terminal window). It's always worked for me. Should we tell people to run the commands simultaneously in the documentation?

[di]

Maybe we just need to ditch the "Quickstart for Developers with Docker experience" section entirely? The detailed instructions are pretty clear about this particular step.

[lgh2]

That would probably fix some of the confusion.

Out of curiosity, when you are setting up your environment, do you run make serve and make initdb simultaneously?

[di]

The database needs to be up before it can be initialized, so the correct thing to do would be to run make serve in one terminal, and once the database is up, run make initdb in another (since make serve will run indefinitely`).