Encourage the use of secondary wikidata tags

[kolgza]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata#Secondary_Wikidata_links

Such tags should include:

• operator:wikidata=* Add field for operator:wikidata #769
• network:wikidata=* Add field for network:wikidata #770
• brand:wikidata=* Show brand:wikidata and brand:wikipedia fields if tagged #552 Add field for brand:wikidata #768
• architect:wikidata=* Add field for architect:wikidata #771
• artist:wikidata=* Add field for artist:wikidata #772
• subject:wikidata=* Support subject:wikidata and subject:wikipedia for historic=memorial and tourism=artwork and information=board #533
• name:etymology:wikidata=*
• flag:wikidata=* Add Flag Name, Flag Wikidata fields to Flagpole preset #218
• buried:wikidata=*

[kolgza]

(//edit by @tyrasd: moved content of this comment to top post, so the task list is properly tracked by github)

[1ec5]

#218 adds flag:wikidata.

[tyrasd]

#533 is for subject:wikidata

[riQQ]

@tyrasd you mismatched the list entries and the links to the corresponding PRs / issues in the opening post.

[tyrasd]

oh, it's fixed now. thanks for the hint 😊

[matkoniecz]

architect:wikidata and artist:wikidata are quite dubious, as are typically unverifiable by survey and only importable from third-party sources.

[1ec5]

architect:wikidata and artist:wikidata are quite dubious, as are typically unverifiable by survey and only importable from third-party sources.

It depends. A lot of commercial buildings have a plaque inside the lobby to credit the architectural firm that designed the building.

Meanwhile, many historic buildings have a plaque outside that mentions the architect along with other facts about the building’s history.

Most of the public art in my city is signed by the artist or has a small plaque with the artist’s name on it, along with other information like the title or the program that funded the artwork.

I hope I haven’t run afoul of OSM’s best practices by translating these Instagram user names to the artists’ real names.

[matkoniecz]

Yes, some of them have. But vast majority - do not.

[1ec5]

I think that’s an unreasonable standard for including a field in a preset, especially if it ends up being hidden by default. Few fields would meet this standard for a preset as common as Building, certainly not Name. The photos I posted above disprove your point about the information only being available through imports, and they’re by no means exceptional. Artists have been signing their murals since time immemorial. I think we’re all quite familiar with the desire for visible attribution! If a public sculpture doesn’t have a visible indication of its creator, it’s fine to avoid selecting the field from the dropdown menu.

In any case, the concern you’re raising is broader than this issue, since the Artwork preset already has an Artist field and the Building preset already has an Architect field. As long as those fields exist, their associated Wikidata fields shouldn’t be subject to additional scrutiny about verifiability.

[matkoniecz]

if it ends up being hidden by default

In such case it would be fine, I guess